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Yes the East knows how to suffer where in the West we have only known "progress and victory" for the last several hundred years. Now of course parts of the West have been occupied but they were on the peripheries such as Spain and Portugal and Hungary. The core has maintained its independence and dominance

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So maybe what we are going to be taught now is how to suffer too ...

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The catholic people, and the "eastern bloc" peoples, even when nominally and geographically west (and of course, incresingly westernized), are not exactly "of the West".

Which is why Spain and Portugal and Ireland are P.I.I.G.S (the ethno-racist term is not mere coincidence) and considered the "South" and the "periphery", both in economic terms, but also in the way the core West sees them culturally: as somewhat closer to "us westerners" version of those "pesky" savages of the Global South.

(The same schism in some degree exists within the bona fide West, e.g. southern and/or rural and Catholic populations in France and Germany, and in Germany there's also the "western" vs "eastern" Germany schism still, where the latter as inferior backwards poor cousins, even if that wont be said out aloud).

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