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John Corcoran's avatar

I'm glad you tackled the issue of the Killeen's Paul. You are right, they are dotted all around Ireland. For me, they are a reminder of how dark and unforgiving the Church I was brought up in could be. You are I suspect right, the phenomenally rapid collapse in the moral authority and "hold" the RC Church had on the people of Ireland is I suspect a form of "payback" for this, and I'm sorry to add, numerous other mean and unloving aspects of Roman Catholic hegemony in Ireland.

What is remarkable to me is that this change has occurred within my life time. As a child in the 1960s, staying the long summer holidays in rural Kerry at my Grandparents small farm, I remember that most of the Irish people I knew, were in thrall psychologically and emotionally to the Roman Catholic priesthood. This vanished like "snow off a dyke on a sunny morning" from the late 1980s onwards.

I have returned "home" to Ireland for the past 24 years, and in that time the RC Church has taken such a collective kicking from the new high priests of secularism in Irish cultural and political life who now determine Irish mores, that it has brought to mind the image of an aging gang boss being kicked to a pulp by a squad of tough young usurpers. Repeatedly receiving kicks to the head long after he had expired. The assailants continuing their booting and wounding of the ousted dead leader to extend the humiliation, and to emphasise to all of us watching, the fate that awaits anyone who thinks to challenge them.

For me, that's how it feels, we have a new "priesthood" here in Ireland, they pervade our media, cultural, and political life, and they possess every bit of the arrogance and rectitude of the Roman Catholic hierarchs of the 1930s or 1950s.

In the same way that poor old insecure and self doubting Ireland strove to be the most Catholic of all the Catholic nations of the earth, so too does Ireland in the 21st century take a strange pride in its "progressive" and "woke" credentials internationally, as ever, seeking verification and affirmation from those they consider to be the arbiters of all that is creditable and worthy.

Ireland in the 21st century looks to me like a nation that has "thrown the baby out with the bath water", an old and pungent saying, which is appropriate to a sense of absence and loss, which sadly has made Ireland increasingly similar in many ways to all the other cookie cutter small to medium sized secular liberal EU nations, with all the attendant dominant

'liberal values' which render them incapable of even perceiving, far less preventing, their eventual disappearance as distinct and vibrant nations.

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Meggie Kröger's avatar

There is a church near where I live in southern Germany where they discovered the remains of so-called "Traufenkinder", lit. "eaves children" - babies who died before they could be baptised, and who were buried not in the graveyard, but where rainwater would drip down from the church eaves. This water was believed to have been sanctified by contact with the church roof and thus blessed the unbaptised children lying below. An attempt by the anguished families to provide a kind of posthumous baptism.

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